looking for an answer from the department, we presented our grievances at Washington and that is what I am looking for. This what I have said, is the wish of all of the Indians that are here. The Indians wish to make no agreement whatever until our matters are adjusted. When I was in Washington the Commissioner of Indian Affairs promised me $27,000. but I have not got the $27,000. yet. What is the matter that I do not get this $27,000 that was promised me. Something more I want to say. When Honorable H. M. Rice came here and negotiated a treaty with us he promised us that we would get $80.00 per capita, of interest money from that treaty, the stipulation of the treaty he was making, and that for 50 years we would not have to take any allotments of land, and all these Indians that are here hold to that understanding. They don't want to take allotments. I reserved a piece of land, I reserved it for coming generations. This is all I want to say to you. In my talk we are just like one man, in that we are all of the same mind in these matters.
McLAUGHLIN:- I want to ask you in relation to that $27,000 that you say the Commissioner promised. What claim did that $27,000 represent?
MAYS KO KO NAY AY:- We went to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, a different delegation from the other delegations, and we were told by him that we were to have $27,000 for stumpage due us.
McLAUGHLlN:- Now you people seem to have gotten the matter of allotments somewhat confounded, I am not here to force allotments upon you people, although I know it would be for your own good. It would be well for you to take allotments. Each man would then have his own piece of land and the improvements that he would place upon it would be his property alone. And while you people, under your treaty, are only entitled to 80 acres each, I could provide for you in a new agreement that you receive double that amount, men, women and children. That is in case we come to an agreement for the western portion of your reservation. I advise you to think of that well